Wednesday 13 June 2012

The cause of the new contract....

"According to (Steve Mitchell) 'McNab' , when the patrol was discovered, it was by Iraqi soldiers and a furious firefight ensued with the SAS men downing a dozen or more men before fleeing. According to Asher, the mission was "compromised" by three Arab locals, one of them a man in his 70s, and the SAS wisely decided that discretion was the better part of valour and withdrew." (This pretty much summarizes the reliabilty of the author Steve Mitchell to tell the truth). ..."There is an almost comical disparity between (Steve Mitchell) 'McNab' and 'Ryan's' version of the mission and the version Asher reports". Oh dear...
"According to (Steve Mitchell) 'McNab', the four captured patrol members (McNab, Pring, MacGown and the wounded Coburn) were moved numerous times, enduring torture and interrogation at each successive location. According to MacGown however, "incidents such as teeth extraction and burning with a heated spoon did not happen. It is inconceivable that any such incidents could have occurred without them being discussed or being physically obvious."
The author of this book left the UKSF just before its publication in 1993...


Patrol members


Bravo Two Zero patrol members. From left to right: Ryan, Consiglio, MacGown (obscured), Lane, Coburn (obscured), Mitchell (obscured), Phillips, Pring (obscured).
Sergeant Steven Billy Mitchell, DCM, MM, patrol commander
[5] former Royal Green Jackets.[6] Captured by the enemy, later released. Author of Bravo Two Zero (1993), and referred to as 'Andy McNab' in the books.
Sergeant Vincent (Vince) David Phillips,[7] patrol 2IC
[8] former Royal Army Ordnance Corps.[9] Died of hypothermia during action, 25 January 1991.[10]
Corporal 'Chris "Geordie" Ryan',[11] (pseudonym of Colin Armstrong), MM
former 23(R) SAS. The only member of the patrol to escape capture. Author of The One That Got Away (1995).
Lance Corporal[12] Ian Robert "Dinger" Pring
[13][14] former Parachute Regiment. Captured by the enemy, later released.
Trooper Robert (Bob) Gaspare Consiglio, MM (posthumous)
[4] former Royal Marine[11][15] or Parachute Regiment.[4] Killed in action, 27 January 1991.[16]
Trooper Steven John "Legs" Lane, MM (posthumous)
[4] former Lance Corporal of 9 Parachute Squadron, Royal Engineers[17] and former Parachute Regiment.[11] Died of hypothermia during action, 27 January 1991.[18][19]
Trooper Malcolm (Mal) Graham MacGown, BDSc
[20] former Australian 1st Commando Regiment.[20] Captured by the enemy, later released. Referred to as 'Stan' in the books.
Trooper 'Mike "Kiwi"[21] Coburn' (pseudonym)
[22][23] former NZSAS.[24] Captured by the enemy, later released. Author of Soldier Five (2004). Referred to as 'Mark the Kiwi' in the books.
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bravo_Two_Zero


 .....summary

Let me see if I've got this straight. A bunch of elite troops are sent off on a mission. They're dropped in the wrong place, they're confused about what their aims are, their radios don't work, they abandon their equipment, blunder around aimlessly for a few days, they get lost, then separated, they leave one of their mates to die, and most of them are eventually captured by civilians. They achieve no worthwhile military objective whatever. It may well be the most unsuccessful military operation of all time. Afterwards the leader of this fiasco gets a DCM and becomes a celebrity, and people write lots of books about it. Did I miss something?"   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Bravo_Two_Zero

2 comments:

  1. One can only assume that the dsf would check te stories of the teamleiders with the actual facts. They don't hand out the DSM with every box of cereal, you know.
    Ergo...after carefully reading the articles here, one Can actually assume that the author of these has somekind of issue with the (British) military. Weren't you found fit for service?

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